The Dar Library: The Seimes Technology Center

My next stop was the Seimes Technology Center down the hallway from the DAR Library.  The first goal was to look at the Windsor, Vermont history seeking information for Stephen Delano.  I had obtained the one DAR application that was listed for him as a patriot the last time I visited.  I wanted to follow up on the more sources. 

Entrance to the Seimes Technology Center at the DAR

The assistant at the desk helped me out and even put the film in the microfilm reader.  I found the pages I needed and made my copies after some technical difficulties. 

The assistant then showed me how to search for a GRC source on the computer at the Seimes Center.    They have the digital pages from these GRC sources on the computer.  WOW!  I had found the GRC sources a bit hard at times in the library on my last visit so this was pretty easy and nice to be able to find them on the computer.  Seems to me all I was able to get from the website was an index listing of the GRC.  I didn’t have much luck on the Evergreen Cemetery in Winchester, NH.  I was hoping someone had done a cemetery publication. 

So I was happily playing with the computer clicking on this and that and decided to revisit the Ancestor tab, Member tab and several other tabs and make sure I have all the DAR applications that I want.  I had done quite well the last time I was there.  So I put in some names and found some more original applications and in addition supplemental applications. The DAR has been busy adding more information. One of the supplementals was for Flora Montanye Osborn.  Now last time I obtained her original application in which she entered through Caleb Rice.  This time there was a supplement application for “Philip Goss.”  YES!!!! Happy DANCE! I knew she had not done all the work on Philip Goss and corresponded with Paul H. Goss for nothing!

So I spent some time revisiting the applications to make sure I had all that I wanted.  I revisited Delano and Goss.  Now these applications cost $15.00 from home and $10.00 at the center. 

After this grand finale I had come to the end of my visit to the DAR Library. 

A fond look at the DAR Library stacks…

I have mentioned the Delano surname several times.  Well they also have an association which is called the Delano Kindred.  I am a member and have been for several years. They are not as strict as some organizations and you can join easily.  After you join you can submit your genealogy which is something that is on my ToDo list.  The website is at:  They had the Delano Genealogies online for members at one time but they did have had some technical difficulties and I have not been back in awhile.  They are having their reunion in Stillwater, MN this coming year, I believe.  I was tempted.  They like to have the reunion around the country in order to open it to Delano surnames.  They also have a newsletter.  I just received my mailing but didn’t have time to look at it before we left for DC.  Does the name Muriel Cushing mean anything to any of you?  Think she is running for President this year for the Kindred.  They have a bookstore and that gives some titles you will want to check out, but if you become a member you may be able to access some things so check them out first. 

I walked back to the hotel via Pennsylvania Avenue after I stopped for a little lunch and a cool drink.  It was really muggy.  My body from the Puget Sound area does not to heat well.  So I trudged along slowly and stopped at this amazing foundatin of water.  It is sliding down the wall….!!!

A cool water fountain on Pennsylvania Ave on the way back to the hotel

I had to run my hands through it.  It was a bit cool but not as much as you would expect. 

Dinner this evening would be at RIS which was one block from our hotel.  My hubby has been to DC many times and knows it pretty well so he has a lot of fun finding interesting restaurants to show me.  Apparently this RIS is a woman who has made a name for herself in DC.


Research at the DAR Library: Cooley Association

I am not an expert but I do try my best to learn about an archive with care.  I study the website thoroughly and then prepare what I want to do so that when I get there I can make progress. 

The one thing about the DAR Library is that you can access a lot of the books in the stacks yourself.  You start on the main floor.  This time I noticed that a lot more of the library catalogue items had been digitized so that meant I would be in the Seimes Technology Center as well as the main library. 

My first goal was to find the Cooley Association Bulletin again.  I had worked on it the last time and then when I returned home I found I had missed some pages and didn’t write my sources down correctly so I didn’t know what the pages were.  No matter how hard you try when you are traveling these types of things happen.  So I knew I had to fix it or it would drive me crazy.  The problem was I forgot where the bulletin was in the library.  All I remembered was it was up and not on the main floor.

The DAR library is divided into the Main room with tables, copiers, the reference desk and all the stacks with general books and then they start with the states.  However, a lot of books are up on the balcony areas and that means you have to go out the two back doors and walk up the stairs and into the upper area.  The DAR is very clever they have those rolling stacks so there is a lot more upstairs than you think.  Climbing around up there is like a maze but kinda fun!  They use to be the balcony area of the assembly room. 

Well it turned out that the Cooley Association Bulletin was upstairs on the balcony to the right of the reference desk in the OV – over sized area.  Of course it was on the top shelf about 1/4 down from the left.  I had to climb up and carefully remove it.  It was a big legal sized red book with about a decade of these bulletins bound inside. 

It was all coming back to me how the library was set up.  I returned to my seat and began going through the pages which had been typed.  The range was 1939 to 1951 for the bulletin.  Paul H. Goss had written about the Goss family in this bulletin and it spanned several issues so I had to revisit the whole sequence to check myself.  There were also a few extras to get the volume, date, issue number and page as well. 

Cooley Bulletin 2nd floor to the right on top!

You can see my stuff on the left in this photo and others busy with their research.  I was told I could photograph the library but not the books and resources, those had to be copied.

The next chore was to seek out sources listed on a DAR application that I had purchased the last time.  The patriot was Stephen Delano and the only application on his line came up through his daughter Elizabeth.  They had listed two histories one of Windsor County and Woodstock, Vermont.  I had obtained the Woodstock part that last time but I revisited it anyway just to be sure.  The Windsor County was on microfilm so that meant a visit to the computer lab. 

This means I have two potential patriots to choose from for my initial application and then follow up with a supplemental. 

I tried finding a GRC but that too was in digital format.  The DAR has been very busy putting more of their records on the computer.  They had done a lot the last time but I was seeing evidence of even more progress.

If you have a Cooley ancestor in your background you need to know about the Cooley Association and go to their website at  I have not joined yet but plan to.  It requires that you be a descendant of a Cooley ancestor and provide the usual documentation.  They have reunions and it looks like it is every 2 years. 

There is also a book written by Dean Mortimer E. Cooley titled the Cooley Genealogy that you should also check for information.  The bulletin above that I mention may have more information about other lines in the Cooley genealogy.   As for additional copies well you might find them in other libraries, societies and archives.

Washington DC: The DAR Library, A Third Visit!

On Thursday, May 26th, I visited the DAR Library again!  I had been to the Daughters of the American Revolution Library in 2000 and then in 2008.  I was returning and I was looking forward to it!  I was not going to be as intense as I had in 2008.  I had been to the library about 5 days in a row to look for Goss sources and accomplished more than I realized.  Apparently I had done well for I as not finding anything of too much significance to search for this time.  That means I am getting to the bottom of it all.  I found a lot of the old sources Paul and Flora used and solved a lot of puzzles.  There are some that I cannot figure out but that is probably okay back in the 1930’s and 1940’s they used a shorthand that can be quite confusing.  Since then a lot have been republished and that has caused some interesting challenges.

This time it was going to be a little less frantic.  I did have several things in mind.  I walked from my hotel down Pennsylvania Avenue for a good 6+ blocks in the warm muggy weather. 

Statue of George Washington at One Washington Circle

People on the move on Pennsylvania Avenue

Turning down 17th the Washington Monument in the distance!

I then turned down 17th and was at the DAR library in about 4-5? blocks.  All was the same on the outside. 

A glimpse of the DAR as you approach

Their sign announcing the DAR

Banners along the north side….

The entrance is on the north in the middle of the block.  I stopped at the security desk and received a visitor pass.  I headed for the library and found that they had opened the double doors for entry and you didn’t get to walk through the small narrow door.  Instead of $5.00 it was now $6.00 for non-members at the library desk.  Back in 2008 by the time I was done I knew the library pretty good but I had forgotten. 

Announcing the Entrance to the left…

1776 Entrance…

The Main Foyer…

The double door entrance

It as time to settle in at my favorite spot at the tables which is the last row on the left.  I took my time setting up and studied my first problem to solve. 

Entering the Library at the DAR

Now it is time to dig into the research and just enjoy being in a place that make me happy!

The DAR Library in Washington DC – Revisiting the First Visit!

Like I said, if you have any ancestor that could have been involved in the American Revolution you need to go and look at the DAR holdings either online at their website or go and visit.  I suggest both if you can!

I have DAR (Daughters of the American Revolution) and Mayflower in my line but I have yet to apply.  I plan to do this in the next six months.  I am finally ready.  We all have to get to a certain place when we feel it is time.  Well the time has come, but first I want to travel to Ohio again and see if I cannot find out more on the Goss family.

My first experience with the DAR was back in 2000 when I was very green in genealogy.  I just sat there in awe the first time…all those books!  I dangled my feet off the chair and knew that I was on a path of learning all I could about my ancestors.  When I say I was green, well, I didn’t even know what the Patriot Index was?

I was looking at the research of my Aunt Miriam and she suggested the following names:  Keller and Delano.  She did not include “Goss.”  I was too knew in the research to know anything about these other surnames names so I decided to look at the “Goss” name.  Well that was an historical day for me.

The librarian explained to me about the DAR Patriot Index and of course I studied the names and decided on the Philip Goss file.  Well this librarian brought me the Philip Goss file and the Goss file. He handed it to me, this tall man, and said “You probably want to see this too.”  When my order came he had me move upfront to a table to look at the information. They now have a lot of information online at their website and in the Seimes Computer Lab at the DAR Library.

So I sat at the table and looked through the files and found all kinds of interesting documents and of course I copied just about everything.  I found documents from a Flora Montanye Osborn, someone named Wingert and a Paul H. Goss???

When I returned home I started to study these documents in detail and low and behold the connection to Mayflower was revealed to me in a manuscript written by Paul H. Goss.

The connection was:  Judith Hayward Goss (wife of Philip Goss II) was the daughter of Anna Hayward who married John Hayward and was the daughter of Resolved White and Judith Vassall.  Resolved was the son of William White and Susanna of the Mayflower.  Remember I visited Philip Goss and Judith Goss’s graves in the Old Indian Cemetery in West Brookfield, MA in previous posts on this blog.

My Aunt Miriam and my father said there was Mayflower in the family line.  Since then I have been on this quest for more Goss family history using and collecting Paul’s manuscripts, Flora’s leads and other research leads.

Philip Goss IV and his son Solomon Goss are in the DAR Patriot Index and I was able to pull some applications the last time I visited to see what  sources these individuals used.  I discovered that Flora came into DAR through her other family line and put her daughter through on the Goss line.

Now that I know more I can also study the Delano line which starts with Mary Delano Keller whose daughter Elizabeth married Daniel D. Spracklin.  Mary’s father was Stephen Delano and her mother was Lovina Smith.  Stephen’s father was Stephen Delano and he married Mary Shaw.  The last time I was at the DAR I was able to pull the only DAR application for Stephen Delano who married Mary Shaw.  This line goes back to Philippe Delano (de lay Noye) of the Fortune.

The DAR Constitution Hall


Our Nations Capitol – Several years ago

The Keller line is still a mystery.  No one yet knows who the parents of John Keller, Mary Delano Kellers husband are.  Maybe when I visit Ohio in August, I can find a small tidbit that will open that door?

On the Move Again! Washington DC

If you ever have a chance to travel to our nation’s capital…GO!  It is an amazing place with many many adventures.  There are monuments like Abraham Lincoln’s pavilion or Jefferson’s Memorial.  Both have small displays in the basement and of course a gift shop!  You can even go up into the Washington Monument – the Obelisk and look out on the city.  Memorials to visit to pay your respects! There are museums to examine and dally in. Just hop on the trolley, pay your fee and take the tour or the loop to all the sites.  You can hop on and hop off and get various passes for a day or several.  Walking can be a bit daunting…!

The Smithsonian is a group of museums and you could be exploring for days….

There is the nation’s Capitol to visit or the U.S. Supreme Court. The White House has a tour which you make your plans with your local Senator office months in advance and give a little information about yourself for security reasons.  I am planning to go this time. 

Here is an example of what your local Senator might have on their website and other links to other tours.

Then there are the other amazing places to go like the DAR Library, the Library of Congress and the main National Archives.  As genealogists we can’t go to DC without at least doing some research in one of these locations.  Don’t forget that Washington DC has their own vital records and town hall.  Washington DC is bigger than just the District of Columbia in terms of genealogy.  So if you do research specific to D.C. you will need to consider the counties that touch it!

Me at the DAR a couple of years ago!

If you have anyone in your ancestry who could have been involved in the American Revolution than you have to go and visit the DAR library.  I have been their 2 times and it is wonderful.  They have placed a lot of their holdings online and are going digital now. 

Then there are plays to attend like at the Warner Theatre or art to see like the Philip’s Collection.  The Kennedy Center has something going on all the time. We saw Terri Hatcher there in Cabaret before Desperate Housewives.  She is tall, thin and she did a good job stepping into the Liza Minnelli role.  I wonder if they still have the Boating Party by Renoir? It is wonderful and much larger than you think!  I will let you know.

This will be my fifth visit to Washington D.C.  My hubby has a SIIM conference to attend.  So I am tagging along.  Washington D.C. hotels are expensive so you do have to do some serious strategizing to get a good deal.  You also want to book a hotel in the area you would like to be closest too and watch the Metro lines so you can use it.

SIIM  This is pretty technical stuff to understand.  I preferred the original name of SCAR. 

We will be there soon at Gaylord National  This could be interesting.  The reviews are either they love it or hate it!